Its funny because after Newtown, and, after the initial melee of fighting with the extreme gun users which for me, was really for the sake of it because I don’t really care about this issue, as the long people that use guns, stay away from me when they have them in hand. And also afterward, I started to speak up really again, just to start to help guide the way and/or allow everyone to have that forum to speak, rather than it just be all about the NRA, and rather than anyone being bullied because of the debate.
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Much like my views, I found that many of those people that want their guns or that all of a sudden feel threatened to have them taken away, is for all of the wrong reasons. Nevertheless, I think that’s simmered or at least for me, its simmered to a decent level where every one can speak their minds today, without yelling about it and without threats or without calling people names (I am at fault too in all regards). But also, another antidote is that a phriend and his phamily are in the gun selling business. I therefore picked his brain about the issues that were at hand or the ones that have arisen to the forefront of politics over the last few months. I asked him the most basic of questions again, all based on what is being discussed in DC and about what had started to be talked about in general, over the last couple months. Because since then and since Newton, what has since happened is that a few bills have resurrected after in one case, it sat dormant for years. We also have new ones that are pre fabricated or the same as the old bills but overall, they are keying on mental behavior issues, the amounts of bullets allowed in a “gun magazine” and then an assault rifle ban is in congress today. They are the basics and I don’t trust it and therefore, I don’t care about it, and moreover, I don’t know how it can work in an effective way. I think its more political theater. And, I think gun owners and gun sellers feel the same way.
However and fundamentally speaking about gun safety and what I am now calling Gun safety laws, is that when we get into the corrupt areas, that’s when I start to get angry about whatever it may be. For instance, I am giving Rachel; (Maddow) total credit for reporting on this issue, but I can safely say she was just as surprised when interviewer, John Lowy, from the Brady Center Legal Action Project, explains to her on her show Friday night that the ENTIRE GUN INDUSTRY are/is immune to any law suit while it also is EXEMPT from the Consumer Safety Commission. Its as diabolical of a plan as being a Vice President of the US, that enters a war based on false information and deception, while that same Veep allows his very own company that he was not only the Chairman, its also a current shareholder of the company that gains all no bid contract to re build the very same destruction from that war. That is as diabolical as setting up a bank and finance system, that NOT ONLY cannot fail if you will, but they also get paid money when they fail as an industry. Its also as diabolical as the laws set in place to enable financiers to invest on anything without any chances of losing any money no matter if the client does with say derivative trades, or whether they do not on those same transactions, and coincidentally speaking today, these corrupt ways of creating so called commerce in America, let alone jobs in the USA, and safety for our people, were all implemented during the (George) Bush (Jr.) years.
In 2002, and with regard to the “Sniper Attacks” in the DC and Maryland area, those two guys used a “Bushmaster XM 15” which again, I don’t care anymore about the type of gun. I maintain that if you need a gun in any way, you are weak person in our society. If you need a gun for crime or to gain money without working for it; it is weak and lazy to act that way. If you need a gun to attack a family’s home to steal anything or to kill someone with that gun, you are a weak person that can’t do it with their hands. And if you canNot protect your family with your bare hands, (or with an alarm system) and/or so to speak, you are a weak person that cannot defend their family or their private property. And further, I maintain that if you need to arm yourself to take over the government in any way without using your brains, you are weak people.
With that said today and with me now saying that there is ONLY one scientific way to gain 100% gun safety and to gain zero percent gun violence. There is one way. One; and I am not getting into it but we should be working outward from that science. Regardless of knowing that we are not melting down every gun in the history of life, those two snipers back in 2002 were not only convicted of murdering ten people, they were also convicted with using an “illegal fire arm.” Therefore, some of the victims sued the manufacturer or the gun maker and they also sued the gun store that sold these guys that Bush Master. The law suits claimed these people and companies, were able to make money off the gun that was used to kill those ten people. Bushmaster and the stores owner settled those law suits for 2.5 million US dollars. Now also, there were a documented of more than 100 or “hundreds of guns” was the exact words used that had been missing from that same store, including that one that was used to randomly kill those ten people.
From the late 90′s and through those early 2000′s, there were many of these types of law suits. People were suing gun makers and manufactures of certain guns that were used in violent crimes, and, that were obtained somehow illegally or in corrupt ways. New York City, New Orleans, Chicago, Gary, Indiana, Miami, Bridgeport, Connecticut, Atlanta and TWO THOUSAND (2,000) other US cities sued a mere TWENTY (20) gun manufacturers in that span of time. The arguments were all based on that these gun makers and gun sellers “built up a distribution system for its’ product that allowed and encouraged these types of illegal sales to people that should not have guns in the first place.” In reality, there was one particular company and/or a select few corrupt companies that sells guns in these corrupt and in illegal ways, and that also knew they are selling those guns to actual criminals that would use those same guns to commit a crime.
When NOLA sued the gun industry, the gun industry went to the state to make it a law for it to be illegal in all of Louisiana, to be able to sue anything or anyone the gun industry. They passed a law to give the entire gun industry full immunity from being able to be sued in any way and they made this law retroactive to cut out any law suits that were on the books at that time.
When Atlanta sued the gun industry, the gun industry went to that state of Georgia, to get it to give the gun industry again, full immunity from being able to be sued by anyone for any use of any gun and in any way.
And, then in 2005, the mother of all laws the gun industry could ask for was implemented and signed under Georgie Bush Jr. That federal law gives the entire gun industry, full blown immunity from any law suit versus it.
No one can sue any gun maker or any gun seller in all of America.
Wayne Lapiere, the head of the NRA called it “a historic piece of legislation,” and as Rachel (Maddow) goes on to say on her Friday night show that, “it is.”
And, she is correct because what other industry in the history of man kind, let alone today, has full immunity from any law suits or from being sued in any way?
There is none.
And,that is not normal and further, its part of that “rigged” system set in place during the Bush II years.
This (gun) industry; The bank industry; the housing Industry; tax laws; the finance industry; etc. etc. etc.
Do you see the trend here?
You do get these industries that are set up to where they canNOT lose for the select few. and that are set up in such corrupt ways, are all driven by people in the GOP.
Which goes back to me saying many times that, “they have had their fun, and now they need to step aside while people like me, cleanup that mess to offset everything to a normal place,” because this is insane logic.
After that law went into place back in 05, the new York Times, wrote an article that stated the NRA’s top priority and/or number one (1) legislation they wanted through the government, was that one. That was the NUMBER ONE (1) priority whereas protecting gun owners was/is not and protecting hunters rights is not the top issue they have at the NRA. Watching that beloved 2nd Amendment is/was NOT even their top or #1 priority at the NRA. The number one – top issue for the NRA was to rig the system so they cannot lose no matter how they act.
That law BTW, protects the select few companies that manufacturer and distribute guns. These gun laws or the finance laws, or the current tax laws, or these bank laws are industries with a lot of lobby money, and they all have direct access to our Presidents. It was Bush though, that allowed the implementation of these corrupt ways to make money in diabolical ways.
They take advantage of a rigged system that they had rigged themselves in first place. Its diabolical.
When the NRA gets asked about that bill that became a law in 2005, their response is that it was/is setup to “prevent gun companies from being liable when the gun they sold is used in a crime even though they did nothing wrong,” and I get that fact, but, that law was NOT set up for those types of cases. Facts are that these law suits were set up against the companies that acted unreasonable and if they profit(ed) off these sales of these guns that had been sold to criminals when they could have easily not sold it to them. All of those law suits were set up against the people that flagrantly sell to whomever without any regard when it could have EASILY been prevented.
Or, if a gun seller could have added a safety device which stops kids from setting off guns which brings me to the next lack of any real logic because these laws do NOT apply to anyone that uses a BB gun. They are set up for anything used to shoot a bullet. We can sue a BB Gun manufacturer or BB Gun Maker or Seller of BB guns, for not using a safety device. That case would be heard in any court system in the USA, but you cannot sue any gun company or gun manufacturer or seller of guns, for them not using the same exact safety device.
Further, the Consumer Products Safety Commission can demand anything from a BB Gun manufacturer like to place that safety device on their BB Guns, as actually they can do with any product on the marketplace. Gunz however, are not only specially exempt from adhering to the Consumer Safety Commission and any safety issues they want to set up in place on all guns, they also can’t be sued in any way. They (gun industry) can bypass all safety issues while not having to deal with any civil law suits. They are exempt from all or any liability laws and they’re also exempt from the Product Safety Commission.
Without getting onto the weeds safety issues because I don’t care about it deep down inside of me, but because they have no rules with regard to gun safety issues, is that device I mention in this article, is centuries old and it is a less than a US dollar in cost per unit, and overall, it would save lives, yet its NOT even remotely standard for that industry.
They blame Hollywood, Video games and being a nut but again, from a science POV is that you could have the craziest guy in the world running around everywhere and if there is no gun near him, he cant do anything with it. If you walk out of Kill Bill wanting to shoot up people with a gun that comes out of your leg, I assume you eventually come down off that high to realize that is fake story line, and its in a movie. Besides, if there is NO gun anywhere, that human cant use it to kill anyone because of that movie. And, then same goes with Video games. If you kill a million people on Call of Duty and then if you get some urge to want to do it in real life, if there is no gun anywhere near that person, he cant use it to kill anyone.
That’s science but again, lets assume we cant get rid of every gun.
This industry, is shielded by the NRA. Anyone can blame any schmuck and their brother for any death because of a gun, but its delusions to jump passed the gun when speaking about these issues. The fact is…and I mean fact…is…..if there is no gun in the room, no one can use it to kill anyone or anything, so please, enough with the jumping over the gun being the main issue with regard to gun violence. Its I the main reason and main tool used in all gun violence. Because again and again and again…and even one more time is that if we had zero guns near every kook, they cant shoot anyone with it.
Therefore, if you believe in sciences and that form of being real in life, lets break it down scientifically from this point outward because like I said a few times, we are NOT getting rid of every gun. I get it. But, I say that we must work outward and upward from that PURE SCIENCE. Which brings us back to this fundamental issue here, this law set up in 2005, needs to be tweaked and that’s what I am really going to work on with regard to Gun safety.
So, we can discuss creating laws to mandate “Background Checks,” and I guess the stick ling issue with it is a good one. How do you monitor the private sale of any gun. We normal people cannot be responsible for doing background checks on other people during any private sale. Stores and anything sold at gun shows, should all have background checks implemented for every sale. Although, what person then makes any determination as to what person is OK to own a gun? What threshold is used to gauge what person should own or not own any gun. It would also create civil liberties issues which I don’t mind, but I am sure people do.
And, the next issue in congress now is about the amounts of bullets filled in what are called “magazines” which I don’t think you need more than a few to kill whatever you need dead, but I am NOT a gun user. I cant argue about this either and its also because I don’t care except for the fact that I don’t want to die in a random way. If whomever uses these types of magazines to shoot up tens of people for the sake of it and if these magazines are not needed in any way to hunt, I don’t see why you need more than say ten or whatever is standard for the industry. Thirty (30) and a hundred (100) bullets seems to be way too excessive to rationalize the civilian use of or need in any way. Except to protect your yourselves from the people that have that weaponry but then we get into that catch 22 or “what comes first, the chicken or the egg” scenario which I am not doing for the sake f this article. I personally think you suck at using guns if you need more than ten bullets to kill what you need dead and I am being very reasonable for the sake of being unbiased. If you need to kill a lot more people than ten, something is not jiving in that brain and then it goes back to mental health and that person should not have a gun in first place. But most of all, we need logic here too. Us normal people should NOT have access to weaponry used at war. We know what they are and if we would stop playing games about it, this is an easy issuer to solve today. It will NOT solve black market sale or maybe it will in decades from today, but that’s an anomaly and would be illegal.
Next is mental behavior issues or checking it somehow, which also flawed because whom is making these judgments, etc. And what is considered to be more kooky than the next person. I know that I think that some of these people that act that way they do with regard to their guns, should NOT be allowed to have a gun. These people are not only nuts, they are stupid people. Which makes things scary and yes, can you say ted Nugent? In reality, what is the threshold here too? Whom makes this determination to gauge people? But also, I assume these pros and cons are a lot like the ones that are affecting mandatory background checks.
I personally think these issues that the mayors and what government people re trying to get through to become a law, maybe be a farce in the broad scheme of life. I think to many gun people, they may feel it wont help say to prevent another Newtown or Aurora incident. I maintain that unless you deal with these issues from the root and upward, its not going to work. We need to make that law normal. I contacted Adam Schiff about it today. We will see what his response is to my saying that I would help. Supposedly that law he introduced on January 14th this year, is legislation that would “undo” the “bad” or what I maybe call corrupt parts or what is described on the Rachel Maddow Show as “the worst parts of that law.” I also assume that to be any negligence laws, product liability laws, and that these fundamental and “basic” principles should / would apply to gun companies and remember too, this law would ONLY allow people to have their case(s) heard in a court. This is not set up to help anyone win or lose any claim.
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Anyone affected by unnecessary, neglectful, reckless, corrupt and illegal gun violence in any way, should have their day in any court system in this US of A. For instance, the family members of the Newtown shootings has the right to bring up any potential claim in any court if they wanted to do it.
By law they or no one can sue any company in that gun industry.
PS: I also feel that there should be no such things as “the stand your ground law. That is a barbaric and insane law to have in place in those states.